SPECULATOR: The BF23 UP: list—Pitchers

Within the player commentaries of the 2023 Baseball Forecaster, we offer some UP: (and DN:) projections that are intended to reflect a ceiling (or floor) beyond the accompanying 2023 projection. As described in the book:
Upside (UP) and downside (DN) statistical potential appears for some players; these are less grounded in hard data and more speculative of skills potential.
Speculative? That sounds awfully familiar. We continue our 2023 Speculator series with a review of some of those UP: projections found in the Forecaster. Last week, we looked at batters, and now we'll head to the mound. The full list of pitchers is included here with a few thoughts on some of the outlooks that have evolved during the offseason (in bold). Feel free to ask about others in the comments.
Average Draft Position (ADP) data is courtesy of the NFBC through January 29:
Pitcher ADP UP: ==================== === ========================= Adam, Jason 322 25 Sv. Ashby, Aaron 234 3.25 ERA, 180 K. Baker, Bryan 734 20 Sv. Bautista, Felix 60 40 saves Brash, Matt 465 sub-3.00 ERA, 20 Sv Brogdon, Connor 738 25 Sv. Castillo, Luis 62 first 200 IP/200 K season Chafin, Andrew 702 20 Sv Cobb, Alex 230 3.00 ERA Coleman, Dylan 529 20 Sv Detmers, Reid 205 3.25 ERA, 200 K. Dominguez, Seranthony 234 25 Sv Duran, Jhoan 124 30 Sv Gausman, Kevin 58 Cy Young Graterol, Brusdar 421 25 Sv Greene, Hunter 113 3.00 ERA, 220 K Harvey, Hunter 521 20 Sv Helsley, Ryan 68 40 Sv Hicks, Jordan 658 20 Sv Hudson, Daniel 343 25 Sv Hughes, Brandon 344 30 Sv Jameson, Drey 344 3.75 ERA Javier, Cristian 63 190 IP, 17 W Jax, Griffin 663 20 saves Jimenez, Joe 609 20 Sv Junis, Jakob 652 10 wins, sub-4.00 ERA Kelly, Joe 733 20 Sv King, Michael 626 20 Sv Kirby, George 94 sub-3.00 ERA Lamet, Dinelson 683 20 Sv Lange, Alex 367 30 Sv Luzardo, Jesus 142 2nd half x2 Mantiply, Joe 587 15 Sv Marinaccio, Ron 691 15 Sv Matz, Steven 338 3.50 ERA, 1.15 WHIP Minter, A.J. 458 25 Sv Munoz, Andres 147 40 Sv Peralta, Freddy 143 160 IP, 180 K. DN: More IL time. Peterson, David 394 3.50 ERA, 160 K. Phillips, Evan 289 25 Sv Puk, A.J. 387 30 Sv Schreiber, John 541 25 Sv. Stephan, Trevor 578 20 Sv Strider, Spencer 32 Cy Young Suarez, Robert 420 25 Sv Swanson, Erik 536 25 Sv Vesia, Alex 534 15 Sv
Starting Pitchers
Aaron Ashby (LHP, MIL) got one of our more eye-opening UP:s with a "3.25 ERA, 180 K" box thanks to his elite combination of strikeouts and groundballs. MIL has since signed Wade Miley to be the team's fifth starter, presumably leaving Ashby on the outside looking in. We're taking a glass-half-full approach here, though, thinking the temporary lack of role is hiding some real breakout appeal. "Draft skills, not roles" a wise (bearded) one once said… Ashby is a prime example here as a sixth starter.
(For more on Ashby and the MIL rotation, see Dan Marcus' recent NL West Playing Time Tomorrow column)
We're purely speculating here (duh), but related to the Ashby news, why would MIL even sign Miley? He's certainly not an upgrade over Ashby on a per-inning basis, and might not be much of one over Adrian Houser either. Perhaps some sort of insurance policy for "UP" (and "DN") sider Freddy Peralta (RHP, MIL)? Peralta has spent 123 days on the IL with shoulder issues since 2019 and has one of the wider ranges of outcomes among starters in the Top 150. We're not saying Peralta's an avoid, but it IS interesting MIL felt the need to add a seventh starter to its roster this offseason.
A mixed bag for Kevin Gausman (RHP, TOR; pictured) since press time. His outfield defense saw multiple upgrades with the additions of Daulton Varsho and Kevin Kiermaier, but those gains may have been wiped with last week's news that TOR's walls are moving in, particularly to right-center field. We covered the impact on a few "UP:" side hitters last week; here's a similar spray chart of all balls Gausman gave up at home over 350 feet last season:
Perhaps 2-3 more errant gusts of wind, but not enough to soften our "UP: Cy Young" stance (hey, we nailed it with Sandy Alcantara last year!).
Hunter Greene (RHP, CIN) might be this year's "market guy". Nothing has changed with Greene himself—The Forecaster lays out all the valid reasons to be excited—we just didn't know his ADP at the time. Now we do... and it's expensive. Greene has the skills to hit our "UP: 3.00 ERA, 200 K" if everything clicks; just know there isn't much of a track record, he's still in a bad park, and he's pitching for a CIN team that didn't even have a starter with over five wins last season.
Similar to Ashby above, David Peterson's (LHP, NYM) present status as the Mets' sixth starter might soften his draft price, but not our excitement over his 2023 outlook. Peterson absolutely pops if we ignore playing time thanks to his ability to miss bats and keep the ball on the ground—his place on this "UP: list" is a testament to his ceiling despite lack of (current) role.
Relievers
Alex Lange's (RHP, DET) odds of reaching our "UP: 30 Sv" got a nice boost when the club dealt closer Gregory Soto to PHI in January. Lange's combination of missed bats and groundballs were the main drivers of our rosy outlook—he was one of just three pitchers with a 30% K% and 55% GB% last season (min. 50 IP). Control is an issue (career 11% BB%), but the latter of our two qualifiers for Lange's "UP" (control and opportunity) might have already been met.
It might be time to cool the jets on Lange's former teammate Joe Jiménez (RHP, ATL) and his "UP: 20 Sv", which is unfortunate given the nice blend of skills he put together in 2022 (28% K-BB%, 3.12 xERA, 15% SwK). Jiménez was dealt from DET to ATL in December, which puts him firmly behind Raisel Iglesias and (potentially) fellow UPsider A.J. Minter (LHP, ATL) for saves.
We hedged our bets a bit with LA's bullpen, anointing both Daniel Hudson (RHP, LA) and Evan Phillips (RHP, LA) with "UP: 25 Sv" speculations in the book. LA didn't sign an outside closer this offseason, which puts Hudson atop our LA Depth Chart with a 50% Sv share. But the 35-year-old is coming off a torn ACL and we haven't heard an update on his status for Opening Day, which keeps the door ajar for Phillips. Both relievers posted sub-3.00 xERAs with 160+ BPVs last year, so keep close tabs on spring training tea leaves here. With 275+ ADPs, both Phillips and Hudson make for excellent dart throws should they end up closing on one of the best teams in baseball.
Erik Swanson (RHP, TOR) was dealt from SEA to TOR since we made our "UP: 25 Sv" call, and while he's firmly behind Jordan Romano in the pecking order, we see the move as an upgrade. A best-case pre-trade scenario for Swanson was a minor piece of the SEA saves pie, but coming off an elite season (29% K-BB%, 15.9% SwK, 2.97 xERA), he's potentially just a Romano injury away from being an upper-tier closer.
Speaking of the SEA bullpen, news has been sparse on Andres Muñoz (RHP, SEA) since his October foot surgery. Muñoz earned an "UP: 40 Sv" as one of the best relievers in baseball last year, but he's being drafted like he's The Guy (147 ADP) despite getting just four saves last season. Tack on the injury uncertainty, and fellow "UP" sider Matt Brash (RHP, SEA) suddenly makes a ton of sense as an insurance policy going outside the Top 400. Paul Sewald will be a factor too, of course, but he's coming off heel/elbow surgery and might be delayed for spring training as well. Something to track when pitchers and catchers report (this month!).
The Speculator is not designed to make definitive assertions about the future; rather, it is designed solely to open readers' eyes to possibilities they may not have previously entertained, and in doing so, provide a different perspective on the future. Many of the possibilities will be of the "out on a limb" variety. All are founded on SOME element of fact. But none should be considered any more than 20% percentage plays.
For more information about the terms used in this article, see our Glossary Primer.
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